Church of England, or Church of intimidation?
Vasantha Gnanados (Right)
From a story on the Independent newspaper's web site:
Members of the General Synod voted to back a motion brought by Metropolitan Police civilian worker Vasantha Gnanadoss calling on bishops to formulate a comparable policy to the Association of Chief Police Officers' ban on police membership of the BNP…………………….
Brownie pointers are now not only infesting the top brass of our police force, but its civilian employees as well. I've been CofE since I was born & I went to a CofE school and (although I've never been christened), my family have been protestant for as far back as I can trace (circa late 1600's).
Well if this intimidation and indoctrination is what the church now represents, they can keep it. I've put up with their nonsense for long enough. An organisation that wants me to believe a man: turned water into wine, walked on water, fed 5000 people with just a couple of loaves and fishes etc. An organisation that believes god wrote a book that demands we stone: homosexuals, rebellious daughters, and anyone who works on a Sunday, then tells us to ignore it. An organisation that believes we should hand children over to homosexual couples for adoption. Well from now on I'm with Richard Dawkins, let's have separation of church and state (something I never thought I'd say).
Now just to help wean you off religion, take a look at this video:
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http://www.rahowa.com/creativity1.html
The Jewish "God" is, according to Jesus Christ, "the devil, a liar and a murderer from the beginning." (John 8:43,44)
http://goodnewsaboutgod.com/
I hail from Port Erin ,and i resent the crack about Gnanadoss and her kind having a Manx connection ,let alone a British one and regarding the Church you can have my half . Jan
I have rejected many posts masquerading as comments. Please note; a single web link without comment, from an anonymous source, is not a legitimate comment. If you want to include a web link to expand a comment that's fine, but let's have some original comment to go with it first, ie tell us why you think the link is worth watching.
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Never once did Jesus tell His followers to become “Leaders.” The idea of developing, or becoming, “Leaders” is a fraud perpetrated by the Organized Church!
Dear Anonymous (11:42 pm),
Sorry, I'm trying to get a full tally of ancestors for the British Isle, I already have: England, Scotland, Wales, but I'm missing IoM and Ireland (I don't consider the Channel Islands as being geographically part of the British Isles)..
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Regardless of N.G. we have to devote all our efforts with and for the BNP we are all under attack now(Change will come about from with in)The writing has been on the wall with the Church and its past motives,what's next Hospital's refusing treatment? let us rid ourselves of these enemys of the people!!! Jan
Crown Protective Isle of Mann,
Dear Anonymous (12:03am),
I 100% agree, Nick Griffin does not own the BNP, its grassroots members do. Britain and its people have had incompetent leaders before and still won through despite of them, and we can do it again.
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Dear Anonymous (12:07 AM),
The Isle of Mann is part of the British Isles (but not the UK), as is the island of Ireland. I used the IofM simply because I have not yet found any links with it in my own ancestry. But as with Irish ancestry I live in hope of getting the full set of eventually.
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All of Them Must Go
THEY ARE ALL CROOK'S!!!
February 10, 2009 - Watching the crowds in Iceland banging pots and pans until their government fell reminded me of a chant popular in anti-capitalist circles in 2002: “You are Enron. We are Argentina.”
Its message was simple enough. You--politicians and CEOs huddled at some trade summit--are like the reckless scamming execs at Enron (of course, we didn't know the half of it). We--the rabble outside--are like the people of Argentina, who, in the midst of an economic crisis eerily similar to our own, took to the street banging pots and pans. They shouted, "¡Que se vayan todos!" ("All of them must go!") and forced out a procession of four presidents in less than three weeks. What made Argentina's 2001-02 uprising unique was that it wasn't directed at a particular political party or even at corruption in the abstract. The target was the dominant economic model--this was the first national revolt against contemporary deregulated capitalism.
It's taken a while, but from Iceland to Latvia, South Korea to Greece, the rest of the world is finally having its ¡Que se vayan todos! moment.
The stoic Icelandic matriarchs beating their pots flat even as their kids ransack the fridge for projectiles (eggs, sure, but yogurt?) echo the tactics made famous in Buenos Aires. So does the collective rage at elites who trashed a once thriving country and thought they could get away with it. As Gudrun Jonsdottir, a 36-year-old Icelandic office worker, put it: "I've just had enough of this whole thing. I don't trust the government, I don't trust the banks, I don't trust the political parties and I don't trust the IMF. We had a good country, and they ruined it."
Another echo: in Reykjavik, the protesters clearly won't be bought off by a mere change of face at the top (even if the new PM is a lesbian). They want aid for people, not just banks; criminal investigations into the debacle; and deep electoral reform.
Similar demands can be heard these days in Latvia, whose economy has contracted more sharply than any country in the EU, and where the government is teetering on the brink. For weeks the capital has been rocked by protests, including a full-blown, cobblestone-hurling riot on January 13. As in Iceland, Latvians are appalled by their leaders' refusal to take any responsibility for the mess. Asked by Bloomberg TV what caused the crisis, Latvia's finance minister shrugged: "Nothing special."
But Latvia's troubles are indeed special: the very policies that allowed the "Baltic Tiger" to grow at a rate of 12 percent in 2006 are also causing it to contract violently by a projected 10 percent this year: money, freed of all barriers, flows out as quickly as it flows in, with plenty being diverted to political pockets. (It is no coincidence that many of today's basket cases are yesterday's "miracles": Ireland, Estonia, Iceland, Latvia.)
Something else Argentina-esque is in the air. In 2001 Argentina's leaders responded to the crisis with a brutal International Monetary Fund-prescribed austerity package: $9 billion in spending cuts, much of it hitting health and education. This proved to be a fatal mistake. Unions staged a general strike, teachers moved their classes to the streets and the protests never stopped.
This same bottom-up refusal to bear the brunt of the crisis unites many of today's protests. In Latvia, much of the popular rage has focused on government austerity measures--mass layoffs, reduced social services and slashed public sector salaries--all to qualify for an IMF emergency loan (no, nothing has changed). In Greece, December's riots followed a police shooting of a 15-year-old. But what's kept them going, with farmers taking the lead from students, is widespread rage at the government's crisis response: banks got a $36 billion bailout while workers got their pensions cut and farmers received next to nothing. Despite the inconvenience caused by tractors blocking roads, 78 percent of Greeks say the farmers' demands are reasonable. Similarly, in France the recent general strike--triggered in part by President Sarkozy's plans to reduce the number of teachers dramatically--inspired the support of 70 percent of the population.
Perhaps the sturdiest thread connecting this global backlash is a rejection of the logic of "extraordinary politics"--the phrase coined by Polish politician Leszek Balcerowicz to describe how, in a crisis, politicians can ignore legislative rules and rush through unpopular "reforms." That trick is getting tired, as South Korea's government recently discovered. In December, the ruling party tried to use the crisis to ram through a highly controversial free trade agreement with the United States. Taking closed-door politics to new extremes, legislators locked themselves in the chamber so they could vote in private, barricading the door with desks, chairs and couches.
Opposition politicians were having none of it: with sledgehammers and an electric saw, they broke in and staged a twelve-day sit-in of Parliament. The vote was delayed, allowing for more debate--a victory for a new kind of "extraordinary politics."
Here in Canada, politics is markedly less YouTube-friendly--but it has still been surprisingly eventful. In October the Conservative Party won national elections on an unambitious platform. Six weeks later, our Tory prime minister found his inner ideologue, presenting a budget bill that stripped public sector workers of the right to strike, canceled public funding for political parties and contained no economic stimulus. Opposition parties responded by forming a historic coalition that was only prevented from taking power by an abrupt suspension of Parliament. The Tories have just come back with a revised budget: the pet right-wing policies have disappeared, and it is packed with economic stimulus.
The pattern is clear: governments that respond to a crisis created by free-market ideology with an acceleration of that same discredited agenda will not survive to tell the tale. As Italy's students have taken to shouting in the streets: "We won't pay for your crisis!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6miCFJp5c8 (THE CHURCHERS ARE FULL OF C.P.)
Economic crises have been produced by us for the goyim by no other means than the withdrawal of money from circulation." - Protocols of Zion - 20
When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, 'This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know,' the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything--you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." --Robert A. Heinlein, If This Goes On, 1940
In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, "just to keep people frightened." This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him." 1984.
All races naturally regard themselves as superior to all others. We think Congoids unintelligent, but they feel only contempt for a race so stupid or craven that it fawns on them, gives them votes, lavishly subsidizes them with its own earnings, and even oppresses its own people to curry their favour. We are a race as are the others. If we attribute to ourselves a superiority, intellectual, moral or other, in terms of our own standards, we are simply indulging in a tautology. The only objective criterion of superiority, among human races as among all other species, is biological: the strong survive, the weak perish. The superior race of mankind today is the one that will emerge victorious – whether by its technology or its fecundity – from the proximate struggle for life on an over-crowded planet.
Prof. Revilo P. Oliver,
Sustaining a police force which is politically impartial but also accountable to Parliament is a balancing act fraught with danger. The job of the police is to maintain the Queen's Peace, uphold the law and protect life and property. But the way in which these tasks are carried out may conflict with the self-serving priorities of governments who have a vested interest in using policemen to defend themselves from the consequences of their mistakes.
Politicians will always be tempted to try and create a police force congenial to them. They are adept at spotting ambitious careerists, throwing bones of preferment to them and, if they show themselves to be responsive, advancing their careers.
There can be no doubt that this was the process which led to the placement of Paul Condon then Ian Blair as Commissioners of the Metropolitan Police. A study of there careers since they assumed the top job indicates that they has been charged with the paramount task: preventing the collapse of the ‘Multi-Racial Society.’
We would need a book to detail every incident in which they have grovelled before corrupt, irresponsible and malicious ‘leaders’ of minority ethnic groups in the hope of putting off more Black riots. For the same reason they cancelled operations against vicious Black criminals and prevented the prosecution of Black agitators who openly incited mob violence. In contrast, they has been quick to approve prosecutions against decent police officers who carried out their duties properly but in ways which accidentally compromised there multi-racial charm offensive.
That London has as its Chief Constable such men is a symptom of the structural corruption and decadence which is rotting away British society.
!WELL WELL WELL!
The secret police are watching youHow can an organisation that is not subject to public scrutiny set up a sinister unit to monitor political and environmental groups?
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"A secret police intelligence unit has been set up to spy on leftwing and rightwing political groups," said the story in the Mail on Sunday. Who has decided that political and environmental groups consisting of individuals, who are guaranteed the rights of demonstration, association, free speech and privacy under the Human Rights Act, should be spied upon by this new sinister police unit?
The answer is the Association of Chief Police Officers – and that is the problem.
Few understand that ACPO is a private company, which happens to be funded by a Home Office grant and money from 44 police authorities. But despite its important role in drafting and implementing policies that affect the fundamental freedoms of this country, ACPO is protected from freedom of information requests and its proceedings remain largely hidden from public view. In reality ACPO is no more troubled by public scrutiny than the freemasons.
That is wrong. Senior police officers are acting with increasing autonomy in drafting these authoritarian new policies. If you wonder how it came to be that police officers are being equipped with 10,000 stun guns, despite the reports of hundreds of deaths in the United States, or how the automatic number plate recognition camera network was set up to record and store data from most road journeys, look no further than ACPO.
Too often it seems ACPO is the driving force behind policy, and the Home Office succumbs, either because of its own autocratic instincts or because the police are exceptionally good at pushing through the things they want.
Now the police have set up the confidential intelligence unit to monitor the political life of this nation. The only reason we know of this is because the Mail on Sunday followed up an internal police job advertisement for the head of the confidential intelligence unit, who would work closely with government departments, university authorities and private sector companies "to remove the threat of criminality and public disorder that arises from domestic extremism". The story tells us that the CIU will also prevent details of its operations being made public.
This surely must ring a few alarm bells, even among our complacent MPs who have allowed this tiny state-within-a-state to flourish over the past decade. It is evident that the CIU will not be troubled by any public accountability and that the individual who becomes its head will be able to make decisions unilaterally about the nation's politics. If all environmental groups are to be branded extreme, if those who demonstrate against the invasion of Gaza are, as a matter of course, to be regarded as a criminal threat, we will enter a period of enormous tension between the authorities and those people who wish to exercise their legitimate right to demonstrate.
Of course there are extremist groups hoping to make use of troubles ahead but it is surely a matter of the gravest urgency that parliament involves itself in defining the limits of the CIU's activity and bringing ACPO into the 21st century by forcing it to become more accountable and open. We cannot have the police making decisions about what constitutes legitimate politics in this country.
Churches are not going to be treated as if they are businesses
Archbishop of York, John Sentamu
Is it true that Tom Linden taken over |Rebles! Hope U publish date of the meeting. nearly x member
Dear Anonymous (12:41 AM)
As far as I know Tom Linden has no connection to the Voice of Change pressure group. Please don't give up on your membership. Democratic change can and must come about eventually, and the BNP is still the only game in town.
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Michael Hoffman: I opened my letter to Pope Benedict with these pointed questions: “Is it not true that under the Second Vatican Council’s doctrine of Religious Liberty, that Bishop Williamson has the right to express his conscience and opinion on the subject of execution gas chambers in Auschwitz? Why is the Council’s doctrine of liberty being suspended in his case?
Then I put Pope Benedict on the spot by asking, “Is belief in the “Holocaust” a criterion for holding office in the Church. Is the rabbinic “Holocaust” mysticism now a dogma of the Roman Catholic Church?”
I brought the issue to a head by an incisive inquiry into the matter: “Are you aware of the extent to which the Crucifixion of Christ has been replaced by Auschwitz as the central ontological event of western history? Do you wish to be complicit in the disastrous effects that continue to accrue from this derogation of Jesus and deification of man?” View Hoffman’s Letter Here.
Br Nathanael: On February 9, 2009, the Seminary in Argentina of which Bishop Williamson was the Rector, dismissed him. What is your analysis of this event?
Michael Hoffman: The excuse used to fire Bishop Williamson was that a Catholic bishop cannot speak with ecclesiastical authority except on matters concerning “faith and morality.” It was stated by the Catholic superior in Argentina that Bishop Williamson violated protocol by speaking on matters that are “beyond faith and morality.”
But the issue really boils down to this: The rabbinic “Holocaust” is a Trojan horse inside Christianity and its refutation does indeed concern “faith and morality” since it betrays the Gospel by derogating Calvary and substituting it with Auschwitz as the central martyrdom of western history.
Bishop Williamson was removed because he offended the rabbis and the Judaics, not because of a heretical statement or for telling a lie. The criterion for removal from office in the modern Catholic Church is that which pleases or offends rabbis and Judaics. Everything else is diplomatic jargon employed to conceal this sickening fact.
Br Nathanael: Is Bishop Williamson facing charges against him for his “crime” of “holocaust-denial?”
Michael Hoffman: Indeed he is. Because of the Judaic lynch mop, Bishop Williamson is facing three years of imprisonment in Argentina, five years imprisonment in Germany, and prosecution in France due to an interview published in Der Spiegel, in which Williamson said he needed “proof” that the Nazis used gas chambers to murder Jews during the Holocaust before “recanting.”
The international campaign against Bishop Williamson is beginning to read like a chapter out of Kafka, or a surrealist dreamscape, and yet this is the Talmudic reality of our lives in the modern West, which is Zionist-rabbinic from top to bottom.
Br Nathanael: Do you think that Williamson will eventually cave in to the Judaics?
Michael Hoffman: Bishop Williamson has no automatic disposition to “recant,” as many under pressure from Judaic lynch mobs have done in the past.
Now, under pressure from no less a figure than the Roman Pontiff who ordered Bishop Williamson to fall prostrate before the homicidal gas chamber fable, he “does not plan to immediately comply with the Vatican’s demand that he recant.”
Printers, stop the presses. Historians, hold your manuscripts. A new page in the chronicle of our times is about to be written: “One honest man against the international Judaic thought police!”
Fury as police won't investigate 'Lords-for-hire' scandal
By Kirsty Walker and Stephen Wright
Last updated at 12:16 AM on 12th February 2009
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Scotland Yard was last night accused of 'backing away' from another high-profile political probe after deciding not to investigate the 'Lords for Hire' affair.
Assistant Commissioner John Yates will not proceed with a criminal investigation into allegations that four Labour peers said they would try to change laws for cash.
Mr Yates, who led the failed cash-for-honours inquiry, said he had 'carefully' reviewed the allegations, but claimed it was 'far from clear' whether an offence had been committed.
Figures show 39 pubs a week shut
Feb 12 2009
A record number of pubs are closing every week in Britain, highlighting the "extreme" economic pressures facing the industry, new figures have showed.
A total of 39 pubs are shutting every week, three more than last year, including 19 in suburbs, eight in town centres and the rest in rural areas, the British Beer and Pub Association said.
The group, which represents the brewing and pub industry, criticised the Government over increases in beer taxes and millions of pounds of extra costs in red tape.
Rob Hayward, the association's chief executive, said: "With pubs closing at a record rate and job losses escalating, it is truly staggering that the Government is proposing to hit the sector with a £300 million bill for extra red tape this year alone.
"In fact, the Government openly state they believe that their new regulations will lead to more pub closures and job losses.
"Pub closures are a clear demonstration of the extreme financial and economic pressures facing the sector.
"At this time of deepening recession and rising unemployment, the Government should be actively looking at ways to support the community asset of the pub.
"They should not be introducing legislation that will condemn more pubs to closure and put more people out of work."
The association said 44,000 jobs had been lost in the industry in the past couple of years, warning that 59,000 could be axed.
Almost 2,000 pubs closed last year, 600 more than in 2007, the report said.
"OBJECTIONS WELCOME"
Licence to spy on drinkersThe police are forcing publicans to install CCTV before approving their licences
On Monday the Guardian carried a letter from Nick Gibson who told how he had taken over a pub in Islington, London, and had to apply for a new licence, which required the approval of a number of organisations, including the police.
"I was stunned," he wrote, "to find that the police were prepared to approve – ie not fight – our licence on condition that we installed CCTV capturing the head and shoulders of everyone coming into the pub, to be made available to them on request."
He wrote to his MP, Emily Thornberry, but got no reply until today when she sent a letter to the Guardian – a somewhat patronising note, suggesting that this was indeed a civil liberties issue and that the staff from the nearby local Labour headquarters should be able to come and go "without being stolen from and intimidated". She also used the opportunity to take a swipe at the local Liberal Democrat council, which has refused to install street CCTV in Islington.
Typically for a Labour MP, she did not answer the substance of Gibson's complaint, which is that there seems to exist an unofficial policy of forcing pub licencees to install CCTV. In effect, Gibson had been compelled to go along with the policy at his pub – the Drapers Arms – to keep making a living. "When was it that the constant small erosion of our liberties became irreversible?" he asked.
It is clear that the police do indeed have an unofficial policy that they implement in a thoroughly undemocratic manner when advising on licence applications – not on the merits of the case but on the applicant's compliance with their policy.
I contacted the Metropolitan Police Service and asked what was going on. Their statement read as follows:
The MPS overall does not have a policy of insisting CCTV is installed within licensed premises before supporting licence applications. However, individual boroughs may impose blanket rules in support of their objectives to prevent crime and disorder and to assist the investigation of offences when they do occur. Islington is one of the most densely populated districts for licensed premises in London and the borough's licensing authority is committed to providing a safe environment in which to socialise.
Islington council has suggested that Gibson can withdraw his application, take away the CCTV cameras and apply again for the licence. A sensible council would of course waive the need for this absurd procedure, and at the same time publicly state that it will stand against the surveillance creep that is blighting every city centre in Britain. CCTV has its purposes but the idea that someone going for a pint must give up their privacy by having their image taken and stored is repellent to all notions of a free society.
Gibson has been put in a difficult position and I would expect the council to make the first move to resolve what is a minor but also crucial issue of privacy, which of course is guaranteed to each one of us by the Human Rights Act.
If it fails to do so, he might like to provide a mask at the entrances to his pub with a suggestion that if people want to drink in private they hold up the mask as they pass the cameras. Or possibly drinkers may like to go equipped with their own mask. A V for Vendetta mask seems appropriate (£4.99).
Perhaps there should be a V for Vendetta evening at the Drapers Arms. If Gibson would like to suggest a date in the next two weeks, I will publicise it.
In the meantime, it is important that the police understand it is not their business to use their influence to make and implement policy affecting people's privacy.
(OH YER!!!)
Is it true Tom Linden has taken over the REBLE GROUP?
Dear anonymous (2:08 PM)
Not as far as I know, although if it is true I think it’s a good move. Tom is a very capable organiser and he would provide sound leadership for the VofC group.
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Dear anonymous (2:08 PM)
Not as far as I know, although if it is true I think it’s a good move. Tom is a very capable organiser and he would provide sound leadership for the VofC group.
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Are you aware Chris your site is being CENSORED! for the use of the J-- word.(Remember those you can NOT speak about have the POWER ,try and send a blog comment using the J-- word)
Dear Anonymous (12:32 AM)
No I wasn't aware of it, simply because it's not true. I do reject long boring cut and paste postings, simply because these are not legitimate comments. I also reject web links that do not support a legitimate comment (ie they're nothing more than advertising). I give identifiable sources far more leeway than anonymous (gutless) posters. I regard the purpose of the comment section to be to add to the current article which it's associated with (although I do give some leeway to comments from identifiable sources). As for rejecting comments that are about Jews, try me! Put your name to a comment (I will of course have to be able to verify the name) and post it.
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Not at all just open the link ,copy the page, and try and send try John Oddy a pop up will appear and explain all.(I will ring you at a later date if thats ok)
I JEST YOU NOT!!!
OPEN THIS LINK, THEN COPY THE PAGE AND SEND TO JOHN ODDY FOR EXAMPLE IT WONT BE GOING ANY PLACE TRY IT!!! (READ WHAT THE POP UP WILL SAY,I REST MY EVIDENCE.
CARE TO MAKE A WAGER!!!
Dear Anonymous (1:32 AM),
Your posting makes no sense, but please feel free to call me anytime.
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CHRIS its simple open this link copy the page then try and send it to John Oddy http://www.payvand.com/news/09/feb/1141.html.
Dear Anonymous (1:44 AM),
You said:
CARE TO MAKE A WAGER!!!
I say:
I wager with whom, and about what?
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Chris Hill
Chris except i have a certain amount of respect for you,just open the link ,copy the page and try and send the page to John Oddy .The rest will follow simple try it !http://www.payvand.com/news/09/feb/1141.html!!
Has the new President of the REBLES TOM LINDEN onounced when the first meeting will be. I need to attend.
Roger
Chris will you be speaking at the venue?
Dear Anonymous (12:08 PM)
What venue?
Chris Hill (Lancaster)
When will tom linden be holding the reble meeting please. you must know the date Chris. Linda
Dear Anonymous (3:42 PM)
I'm afraid I still have no idea what you're talking about.
Also why have you now started to use the name Linda, whereas on previous postings you were calling yourself Rodger?
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Chris Hill
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I've rejected another advertisement (single link with no comment) from an anonymous poster.
However this time the youtube link, in question, was indeed a very interesting video. I will be please to allow this posting if it includes a short comment about the video, from the poster. Also can I ask you why you posted this anonymously? It's a good video, from an ex Canadian prime minister, and you should have no qualms about being associated with it.
If you care about our nations future stand up to be counted!
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Why are you against the church your a bloody warlock .
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